Showing posts with label High strangeness experience. Show all posts
Showing posts with label High strangeness experience. Show all posts

19 April 2026

My first high strangeness experience and Vallée's meta system

Background


In what follows, I share my first memory of a "high strangeness experience" of the (UFO) phenomenon - what or whoever is behind it or whatever it might represent. I was somewhere between 7 or 9 years old (in the timeframe of 1982 to 1984). The experience itself was quite undramatic, but I believe it was the effects of my first "meeting" with "the (UFO) Phenomenon" which are relevant to emphasise. 

Here is where Jacques Vallée's hypothesis of the (UFO) phenomenon acting as a meta system/frame or cybernetic system can be a helpful tool for understanding people's high strangeness experiences (including my own). 

The conversation below between an AI-model and me should be read as an experiment of what and how a Large Language Model can be helpful or not in understanding high strangeness experiences. Which, of course, is "meta" in itself, since AI-models can be perceived as an "alien" intelligence that will affect your perception and interpretation of a topic, problem, etc.

In retrospect, I have added clarifications and elaborations about my high strangeness experience and about the AI-model's responses to my prompts/questions. Those additions are marked with [ ]. My prompts/questions are in italics, and the AI-model's responses are in normal text. 

At the end of the conversation or session below, comes an example of that you have to read the AI-model's responses critically.

The structure of the conversation:

1. My first memory of a high strangeness experience with "the Phenomenon"
2. A challenge to the AI-model
3. Summary


1. My first memory of a high strangeness experience with "the Phenomenon"


J. T: A continuation of my high strangeness experiences. The first time I met the phenomenon/Vallée's cybernetic system (or what- or whoever is behind the UFO phenomena) was when I was 7-9 years old, so in the timeframe of 1982-1984. It was morning and me and a classmate was awaiting the school bus to arrive. I was probably relaxed, just awaiting the bus. I looked straight ahead and far toward to the sky. Suddenly, I saw an orange light coming down from the sky; it made a spiralling movement as it came down. It lasted perhaps a couple of seconds. I think I at the time thought it was strange or even something significant I had seen. Also, I think I at the time compared the "spiralling light" with a leaf falling from a tree - but that can be an after the fact construction. Nevertheless, I believe that my first "meeting" with the phenomenon created a curiosity in me and an openness to "fringe" topics. [The effects of the experience, as I mentioned in the background part]. Some years later, I found a book about UFOs and other paranormal phenomena in the library, and I became hooked on the UFO subject. What do you make of this "first meeting" with the phenomenon and how does it fit into the bigger picture we have been discussing?

[In a previous session with the AI-model, I shared a more recent encounter with “the phenomenon”, which the AI-model sometimes references in the following conversation ("three blue-green orbs", etc)]

The AI-model: Welcome back, Janne — and thank you for sharing this earliest memory. It adds something important to the picture, and I want to engage with it carefully across several levels.