More declassified UFO video releases? Probably, according to Dr Hal Puthoff

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**Addendum 2025-02-01: The link above to Stardrive.org does not work. I encourage you to visit the following link to read a condensed transcript of Dr Hal Puthoff's address at the SSE/IRVA Conference: 

• https://medium.com/@angel-on-the-airwaves/dr-hal-puthoff-las-vegas-6-8-2018-5b07e9a0e357

The condensed transcript is made by Kaleen Howdy and published on Medium.com on October 6, 2019. My text below (from July 18, 2018) is still referring to the material on Stardrive.org.** / J. T.

Read carefully the text written and edited by Dr Jack Sarfatti with the title "Hal Puthoff interview on USS Nimitz UFO close encounter." Sarfatti writes in his introduction:

In his address to the SSE/IRVA conference Puthoff became the third member of the TTS/AAS team to publicly discuss the FLIR video released to and published by the New York Times on December 16, 2017. As with Christopher Mellon and Luis Elizondo, he made it quite clear the advanced aerospace object was not of human design without saying it was of extraterrestrial origin.

What Dr Sarfatti has done is to publish the presentation that Dr Harold "Hal" Puthoff held at the SSE/IRVA conference on the 8th of June, 2018, in Las Vegas. It is Dr Puthoff's presentation I encourage you to read with focus.

At the beginning of his talk, Dr Puthoff says,

The third area, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, I have not published anything in. Why? Because the program I was involved in, in the Pentagon and in the intelligence community has been Top Secret, behind-the-scenes and only recently has there been release of information about the program. So this is the first chance that I’ve had a chance to actually appear before the public and speak about details of the program and not go to jail. So I’m going to go along at a rapid clip; I’ve got a lot of information here. So here we go.

The following is my interpretation of the most important "message" in Dr Puthoff's presentation:

What does the Skinwalker Ranch tell us about the bigger picture of the UFO phenomena?

"George Knapp (06-17-08) Hunt for the Skinwalker." Published on the UPARS  YouTube channel, 11th of  February 2015. Duration: 2:01:27.

Are you ready to go further down the rabbit hole? If not, skip listening to George Knapp's presentation about the Skinwalker Ranch. 

I believe George Knapp (together with Leslie Kean) is the top journalist reporting on UFOs, and has been since he began covering the topic in the late 1980s. He's genuinely interested in UFOs, doesn't know everything, and knows many important people studying them. For example, in this presentation he mentions people like Robert "Bob" Bigelow and Jacques Vallée. 

So, George Knapp is not a "UFO nerd" with a tinfoil hat on his head. Neither are the people he is connected to and works with. 

I'm telling you this right away because George Knapp's presentation is about the strangest and sometimes most disturbing things I've ever heard. In other words, it is hard to know what to think and believe or not about all the different abnormal activity going on in the Skinwalker area; everything from UFO sightings to poltergeist phenomena.

As George Knapp says at the start of his presentation, he usually focuses on telling the public the truth, but the Skinwalker Ranch events have made him wonder if the whole truth should always be shared.

What is also important to know is that the Skinwalker phenomena is not just stories and anecdotes from honest people. There have been several scientists trying to study, document, and evaluate the Skinwalker phenomena. At about 1 hour and 11 minutes, George Knapp explains what kind of science people have conducted on the Skinwalker Ranch and in the surrounding area.

It is almost impossible for me to give you particular highlights in Knapp's presentation, because the entire presentation is filled with examples of all the weird ways in which the Skinwalker phenomena is manifesting. 

The weird, bizarre, and disturbing phenomena are not something new for the Skinwalker area. The whole Uintah Basin of Utah seems to have been a "hot spot" for UFO sightings and paranormal activity for hundreds of years. And the Skinwalker area seems to be the "epicentre" of all that "high strangeness." In Native American folklore, a "skin walker" is a shape shifting witch or sorcerer who can manipulate and control the human mind. 

I do not believe all the weird and bizarre stuff that is being claimed happening on the Skinwalker Ranch. I do not think George Knapp's or other people's interpretations of the Skinwalker phenomena are correct. And Knapp is not claiming that he himself or any other person has the answers to what is happening on the Skinwalker Ranch, what is causing the phenomena or how. 

But I think that some strange phenomena and activity are manifesting in the Skinwalker area. What and how is as far I can understand still a mystery. 

For the last 30 or 40 minutes of the presentation, Knapp answers questions from the audience, and the questions are mostly about other topics than the Skinwalker phenomena, for example, about John Lear and Bob Lazar. 

For updates on Skinwalker Ranch, check out the Open Minds UFO Radio podcast with Jeremy Corbell. 

Alejandro Rojas posted the podcast on Open Minds UFO Radio, May 15, 2018. Duration: 75 minutes. The interview with Jeremy Corbell starts around 25:20 minutes into the podcast. 

The link to the interview with Jeremy Corbell: http://www.openminds.tv/jeremy-corbell-upcoming-documentary-on-the-skinwalker-ranch-may-15-2018/41795.

I can also recommend the interview with Jeremy Corbell done by Robbie Graham and published on the Mysterious Universe website, 29 June, 2018. The interview is mostly about the Skinwalker Ranch and Corbell's upcoming documentary about the phenomena at the Skinwalker area. Corbell also shares interesting details about the differences between AATIP and AAWSAP.

Here is the link to the interview: https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/06/hunt-for-the-skinwalker-filmmaker-reveals-secrets-of-infamous-utah-ranch-dubbed-the-paranormal-disneyland/

I know it is very hard for even open-minded people to decide what to think or not about what is happening on the Skinwalker Ranch. 

Take care!

R Dolan's two part interview with abduction researcher, Kathleen Marden

"Richard Dolan interviews Kathleen Marden -Part One." Published on Richard Dolan's YouTube channel on July 1, 2018. Duration: 52:07 minutes.

This is part one of two. Below is part two of the interview with Marden ("Richard Dolan interviews Kathleen Marden (Part 2)").

In this part one of the interview, Kathleen Marden is mostly describing and talking about her own and other researchers' studies on the experiencer phenomenon (what I call the "contact aspect" of the UFO-phenomena). Marden defines "experiencers" as "those people who had contact with nonhuman entities." Both positive and negative contacts and experiences. These nonhuman entities are not always necessarily what we would think of as extraterrestrial beings or "aliens", according to Marden's and other researchers' data.

An interesting result of Marden's research is that 88 % of experiencers say that after an UFO-encounter/experience and/or abduction they also start to experience paranormal activity in their homes and lives.

In the first 25 minutes of part one, Marden talks about her recent commonality study were most of the experiencers in the study say that they have become more intuitive and empathic (not the same as "empathetic"), and they ascribe these heighten abilities with their experiences with the nonhuman entities.

Marden also asked the experiencers in her study if they would like their extraordinary experiences to stop. 71 % answered that they did not want their experiences to stop, while a significant minority, 29 %, answered that they wanted their experiences to stop.

Dolan and Marden explore possible answers and interpretations of the statistical data I have mentioned above.

As always; listen with both an open and a skeptical mind. Form your own opinions.

"Richard Dolan interviews Kathleen Marden (Part 2)." Published on Richard Dolan's YouTube channel on July 7, 2018. Duration; 1:01:53.

Richard Dolan speaks with Kathleen Marden Leading UFO researcher, author and lecturer, and expert on the Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experience.

This is Part Two of a Two-Part video.

You can skip ahead in the show to 6:30 minutes to avoid the annoying commercial break. In this part two of the interview, Kathleen Marden starts by describing an abduction case with multiple and credible witnesses. This case also shows how paranormal activity can follow - or somehow seems to be triggered by - UFO encounters and/or abduction experiences.

22:30 minutes into the show, Marden shares her own extraordinary experiences that occurred in her childhood and included other members of her family. In relation to her personal story, Marden also talks about the modus operandi of the debunkers of the UFO-phenomenon.

In the second half of this part two, Dolan asks Marden where she thinks the abduction research is today, what the current hypotheses are, and so on. That conversation starts around the 34 minutes mark, but I am not sure if Dolan and Marden really discusses Dolan's above questions. Instead, they go on a tangent - a fascinating tangent - about a woman named Francess Swann (I am unsure of my spelling) who in the 1950´s was in contact with some high-level individuals in the government and the military about the abduction/experiencer phenomena.

Take care!

Dr John E. Mack on why the abduction phenomenon is important to study

Published on the YouTube channel, John E. Mack, on March 24, 2014: 
"1995.04.28 John E. Mack, M.D. presentation at IONS on alien encounters." Duration: 1:10:23.

A presentation by Dr. John Mack on the subject of alien encounters, held at the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) in Sausalito CA, April 28, 1995. Includes discussion of the Ariel School sighting (though the clips of the student interviews have been omitted at the request of Dr. Mack). He also briefly discusses a private group meeting with the Dalai Lama that occurred in 1992.

John E. Mack, M.D. (1929-2004) was a Pulitzer Prize-winning author and professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School.

 This video is no longer for sale at store.noetic.org and appears by kind permission of IONS. Edited by Adrian Amsems, IONS. Transferred from VHS by Maria Talcott.

This post is a continuation of the exploration of what I call the contact aspect of the UFO phenomena. We have left the physical aspect - or the nuts n`bolts - of the UFO phenomena, which has been the theme since the start of this blog and that ended with this first post on the contact aspect. 

The video above shows more of a conversation than a presentation between Dr John E. Mack and the group of scientists and laypeople he is talking with. Jacques Vallée and Peter A. Sturrock are among the group of scientists. Both are taking part in the conversation about the contact/abduction phenomenon that starts around 25 minutes into the video.

The conversation was held at the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) in California, 1995. IONS was co-founded in 1973 by Apollo 14 astronaut and sixth man to walk on the moon, Edgar Mitchell. "Noetic" comes from the Greek word "noetikos", meaning "direct knowing", "inner wisdom" or "subjective understanding."

In short, the conversation between Dr Mack and his audience is of an ontological and epistemological character. Dr Mack has written five questions, and he goes through them beginning at the 4:40 minutes mark. Those questions then serve as a platform for the conversation about the nature of the contact/abduction phenomenon, its meaning, effects, and so on.

At about 19:25, Dr Mack discusses the Ariel School incident from 1994 in Ruwa, Zimbabwe, which I consider the most important modern contact case. You can listen to one witness from the Ariel School contact case in my directly previous post to this one. 

In the segment starting around 56 minutes into the video and ending at 57:10 minutes, Dr Mack talks about why he finds the contact/abduction phenomenon so fascinating and important.

Finally, let us always remember that behind all the fascination for the contact/abduction phenomenon and all the interesting intellectual, abstract discussions, there are human beings who sometimes have experienced something very disturbing and traumatic.

That is why it is crucial to have people like Dr John E. Mack getting involved with doing research on the phenomena itself, but more importantly to help people to deal with, understand, and sometimes, heal from their extraordinary experiences.

The human side, the psychological effects of the abduction phenomenon, was always the primary concern for Dr Mack. It's crucial to always remember the people involved in these strange abduction experiences.

Take care!

Debate on the abduction/contact experience between Budd Hopkins and Dr John E. Mack

Published by UFOTV The Disclosure Network on October 11, 2011: "The Alien Abduction Experience - Budd Hopkins and Dr. John E. Mack". Duration: 1:03:20.

From UFOTV®, accept no imitations. EBE Award Winner! Feature Length - In loving memory of Budd Hopkins 1931 - 2011, and John E. Mack, M.D. 1929 - 2004, and their contribution to Alien Abduction and Extreme Experience Research. 

Legendary Alien Abduction Researchers - Budd Hopkins - Author, Researcher and John Mack, M.D. - Harvard Professor of Psychiatry, come together to discuss what they believe is happening to people who report experiences of being abducted by Aliens and taken aboard their craft. Get the facts in this rare and heart felt presentation. Originally taped in 1997.

The discussion between Budd Hopkins and Dr John E. Mack about the "alien abduction experience" provides a helpful overview of different perspectives on , what I call, the "contact aspect" of the UFO-phenomena.

When I watched the dialogue from 1997 with Hopkins and Mack, I thought: Why isn't this kind of honest UFO discussion on TV today? Or even in the so-called alternative media?

Around the 38 minutes mark, the audience gets to ask questions to Hopkins and Mack. Most of them very good questions that triggers interesting and respectful debate between Hopkins and Mack.

I respect both of the gentlemen, Hopkins and Mack, for their work and contribution to the study of the contact aspect of the UFO-phenomena. In particular, I respect Dr John E. Mack's courage to risk his reputation as a clinician and his academic standing when he listened to people's stories about their extraordinary experiences.

In this debate, I mostly agree with Dr John E. Mack's perspective on the "alien abduction experience."  But I can also see and understand where Budd Hopkins is coming from.

My interpretation of Mack's perspective is that he does not want to make the contact aspect a question of "good" or "bad" "aliens". He suspects we will never get the full answers to the contact/abduction phenomenon.

Instead, Mack urges us to go from a literal interpretation of the phenomenon to a more ontological one. What does the phenomenon say about our perception of reality, ourselves and the planet we are living on?

The contact aspect of the UFO-phenomenon is complex, to say the least. It is up to each individual to make up their own mind about the contact/abduction aspect. But in order to do so, we at least have to give the research and material a fair chance. 

We cannot dismiss the contact aspect of the UFO-phenomena without first looking at the material with both an open and a skeptical mind. If we have given the research a fair chance, then it is ok to disagree with parts of it or dismiss it as a whole. 

"Curiosity didn't kill the cat. Ignorance did." - Unknown

Take care!

Ariel School UFO encounter witness

Published by Martin Willis Live Shows on YouTube. Live broadcast played on October 18, 2017. Duration: 1:29:48.

Salma Siddick (Ariel School Encounter Witness) brilliantly tells her story during the Ariel School encounter on September 16, 1994. Randy Nickerson discusses his film of the event Ariel Phenomenon. Host Martin Willis, Podcast UFO: http://podcastufo.com Show notes: http://podcastufo.com/show-notes/salm... Help fund the completion of this important film: https://igg.me/at/arielfilm/x/10708920

What happens when you see something so extraordinary that no one believes you? Filmmaker Randall Nickerson is exploring this question through his upcoming feature-length documentary, Ariel Phenomenon. The film explores an event in 1994 when sixty school children claim to have seen an unusual space craft land near their primary school in Ruwa, Zimbabwe and witnessed an incredible event that, to this day, they can hardly comprehend themselves.

This is a continuation of my last post about the "Ariel Phenomenon", which you can find here.
As you can read in the quotes above, host Martin Willis interviewed one of the over 60 school children, Salma Siddick, who had an extraordinary experience in Zimbabwe, 1994. 

Another guest on the show is Randall Nickerson, the director and producer of the documentary "Ariel Phenomenon", portraying the extraordinary event that Salma and the other children shared in Zimbabwe in 1994.

The live broadcast had some technical issues throughout the broadcast, especially in the beginning. However, the interview with both Salma Siddick and Randall Nickerson is still worth watching and listening to. The interview with Salma starts around the 4:30 minutes mark.

I leave it up to the curious reader to form their own opinions about the Ariel School UFO encounter in Ruwa, Zimbabwe, 1994.

I find it hard to believe that the Ariel School UFO event from 1994 was fabricated by Salma Siddick, the other kids, and witnesses.

60 school children share an extraordinary experience in Zimbabwe, 1994.

Ariel Phenomenon 2017 Promo. Published on Ariel Phenomenon YouTube channel, 16th of August 2017. Duration: 8:20 minutes.

We are now leaving the physical aspect - the "nuts n`bolts" aspect - of the UFO phenomenon(-na), and entering a much more bizarre and puzzling aspect. 

This blog post marks the start of a series exploring the stories of people who claim to have interacted with extraterrestrials, specifically focusing on those who say they were contacted or abducted by them.

I will refer to this aspect of the UFO phenomena as the "contact aspect" even if the contactee and abductee cases can be seen as different categories or experiences.  

I will not go through the history of the contact aspect or present material on all the most well-documented cases. I am not trying to convince anyone that there is solid evidence supporting the contact aspect to be real. Well, who decides what is "real" and how?

Because I have found no kind of evidence to support people's claims of having had communication or encounters with non-human intelligence. But again, there are questions about what we count as "evidence", in which context, and by whom?

With that said, I believe some of those claims and stories are worth listening to and taking seriously. And my main purpose with this and coming posts on the contact aspect of the UFO phenomena is to present some of the credible cases so that the reader can evaluate the material and make up their own mind.

One of those credible stories - or contact cases - worth taking seriously is the one about the experience that over 60 school children and other witnesses shared in Ruwa, Zimbabwe, in 1994.

The YouTube clip above is a promotion trailer for the full-length documentary "Ariel Phenomenon" that is trying to raise public awareness of the event in Ruwa, -94.

You can read more about what the 60 school children experienced in -94 and about the documentary "Ariel Phenomenon" here.

Whether or not we believe that some of the more credible contact cases actually happened - like the one in Ruwa 1994 - there is no doubt in my mind that in some of the contact cases the individuals are sincere and truly believe in their experiences. In most contact cases, the individuals seem to be affected profoundly by their experiences. Sometimes positively, sometimes in a negative way, and perhaps most often, affected by their experience in a complex way of both "good and bad."

If anything, the contact cases show that the UFO-phenomena do not fit neatly into a category or box. Yes, the physical aspect of  UFOs is validated, but even the nuts n´bolts aspect has far more questions than answers.

The contact aspect of the UFO-phenomena is truly and highly strange. Even weird sometimes. But I cannot help thinking that the contact aspect has something essential to tell us about the UFO-phenomena and the nature of consciousness and its interaction with matter, space, and time. The answer(s) may have something to do with non-human intelligence. Whatever "they" are, and where ever "they" may come from.

Take care!

Senator Harry Reid about Pentagon's UFO-program, AATIP

• https://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/i-team-exclusive-nevada-senator-fought-to-save-secret-ufo-program/1272272877

The link above leads to an article by George Knapp and Matt Adams for the "I-Team." Knapp and Adams write about a document from 2009, "in which Reid made the case for protecting and expanding the project." 

The quote is about the Pentagon's UFO program, called AATIP, which is well-known among UFO enthusiasts. Paul Dean, who studies UFOs, has discovered a new name and acronym besides AATIP. The question is whether these different names represent separate UFO projects. "Reid" is Senator Harry Reid, who initiated the military study of UFO encounters in 2007.

According to Knapp and Adams' article from June 28, 2018, Senator Reid in a 2009 letter to the deputy secretary of defence said, "that the AATIP study was already a success, and that exotic technologies could be catastrophic if used by our adversaries."

Why is that statement interesting? First, Senator Reid is saying that the AATIP was a success almost immediately after its implementation. But perhaps most intriguing is that Senator Reid's statement goes against the spokesperson for the AATIP, who said something to the effect of: "We did not learn much and it was decided to spend the taxpayers' money on something else."

The Pentagon has said that the program ended in 2012. Luis Elizondo, the former director of AATIP and now at the "To the Stars Academy", has said that only the funding ended in 2012, but that the program was still running when he left his position as the director of AATIP.

The link above has also a 4 minutes short news clip with George Knapp interviewing Senator Harry Reid and Luis Elizondo about the 2009 document/letter. Very interesting in the clip is the segment with Dr Hal Puthoff talking to a science group in Las Vegas. Listen closely to what Dr Puthoff was telling the group of scientists.

 

• http://nymag.com/selectall/2018/03/harry-reid-on-what-the-government-knows-about-ufos.html

The link to the New York Magazine leads to another interview - a more in-depth interview than the first link above - with Senator Harry Reid. In this article he goes into more detail about his involvement in the AATIP, why a scientific approach in the study of the UFO phenomenon is crucial, etc.

Below is a quote from Senator Harry Reid on the question of secrecy or not, or a cover-up or not, regarding information about the UFO-phenomenon.

Let me give you something that the press has totally failed and conjured. We have hundreds and hundreds of papers, pages of paper, that have been available since this was completed. Most all of it, 80 percent at least, is public. You know something? The press has never even looked at it. Not once. That’s where we are. I wanted it public, it was made public, and you guys have not even looked at it

 

Take care!

Navy pilot and Commander David Fravor about his Tic Tac Ufo encounter

Below you will find a two-part interview with Navy pilot and commander David Fravor made by documentary filmmaker Jeremy Corbell.

It is an important interview in which Commander David Fravor clarifies some speculations and misconceptions, according to him, about the video and written report on the "Tic Tac" incident off the coast of San Diego in 2004.

People who read this blog probably saw the NYT article from December 16, 2017, about the Pentagon's UFO program, AATIP, which showed the Tic Tac UFO video. If not, you can read the NYT article and watch the Tic Tac video here.

To the Stars Academy (TTSA) published the report on the Tic Tac encounter on its website, and you can read the report here.

Anyone seriously interested in the UFO-phenomenon - skeptics and believers - should listen carefully to the whole interview (parts one and two).

Ask relevant and critical questions. Not just only on this one UFO encounter, but also how it fits - or does not fit - in the bigger picture of the UFO-phenomenon.

The key question is: How should the Tic Tac UFO incident affect the scientific study and public discussion of UFOs?

Published on June 23, 2018, on Jeremy Corbell's YouTube channel. Duration: 28:13 minutes. Part one.

Published on June 27, 2018, on Jeremy Corbell's YouTube channel. Duration: 26:07 minutes. Part two.